Sunday, July 16, 2017

Athanasian Creed (with my edits)

Whosoever will be saved, before all things it is necessary that he hold the catholic faith. Which faith except everyone do keep whole and undefiled, without doubt he shall perish everlastingly. And the catholic faith is this: That we worship one God in Trinity, and Trinity in Unity, neither confounding the persons, nor dividing the substance.

[I can’t accept all of this, this “whole” creed. And speaking of creed, Jesus said to “keep” His “commandments” (John 14:15), His “words” (vs. 23), His “sayings” (vs. 23). He and His Father also required for salvation the simple formula “that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on Him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.” (John 6:40), “I am the door: by Me if any man enter in, he shall be saved, and shall go in and out, and find pasture.” (John 10:9)]

For there is one Person of the Father, another of the Son, and another of the Holy Spirit. But the Godhead of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit, is all one, the glory equal, the majesty co-eternal.
[Biblically, the Holy Spirit is never called a person, or given any semblance of a being, such as the Father and Son are described. Their glory is equal, but the Son’s glory came from His Father (see John 17:5). They are not co-eval or –equal; the Father is greater and receives the greater worship, even from His Son (see Matthew 19:17; 23:9). And They are not co-eternal since the Father begot His Son.]

Such as the Father is, such is the Son, and such is the Holy Spirit. The Father uncreated, the Son uncreated, and the Holy Spirit uncreated. The Father incomprehensible, the Son incomprehensible, and the Holy Spirit incomprehensible.
[The Son was made comprehensible by the Voice being made flesh. He was made identifiable to us, although His voice was still incomprehensible to all who had not faith to recognize His voice, and hear His grace and truth. The Father is made comprehensible by His Son, and Their Holy Spirit is comprehensible by the Son, as well.]

The Father eternal, the Son eternal, and the Holy Spirit eternal. And yet they are not three eternals, but one Eternal.
[Here the creed begins to complicate the simple gospel. “Verily I say unto you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. And whoso shall receive one such little child in My name receiveth Me.” (Matt. 18:3-5). “Yea; have ye never read, Out of the mouth of babes and sucklings thou hast perfected praise?” (Matt. 21:16).

As also there are not three incomprehensibles, nor three uncreated, but one Uncreated, and one Incomprehensible. So likewise the Father is Almighty, the Son Almighty, and the Holy Spirit Almighty. And yet they are not three almighties, but one Almighty.
So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Spirit is God.  And yet they are not three gods, but one God.
[More Babylonian mystery complicating…]

So likewise the Father is Lord, the Son Lord, and the Holy Spirit Lord.  And yet not three lords, but one Lord.
[The “holy Spirit” of God is not a person, is not to be prayed to, adored, or worshipped. The Holy Spirit never died for us, as the Son of God did, and as the Father suffered in empathy for His Son and made the heavy decision to keep us and lose His only begotten Son. The Holy Spirit never was tempted by Satan in all points, as was the Son. The Spirit comes to the creature with all the power of the Godhead. Even with Jesus, the Father’s Spirit is a gift. “For God giveth not the Spirit by measure unto Him.” (John 3:34). His Spirit is no less a “thing” than everything else the Son had by virtue of His Father’s giving. “The Father loveth the Son, and hath give all things into His hand.” (John 3:35).]

For as we are compelled by the Christian verity to acknowledge each Person by Himself to be both God and Lord, so we are also forbidden by the catholic religion to say that there are three gods or three lords.
[This creed and formula from the days of Arius resulted from the attempt to have the true, biblical one God and also to have the pagan polytheism. The Trinity was the blending of both the one true Godhead with the most popular false godhead. The Trinity was the rationalizing, or devising the means, for keeping the truth in one hand and also the world in the other. And just as Jehovah refused to dwell in a corrupt temple with Dagon, but caused that idol to be broken before Him, likewise, the true Father and Son Godhead cannot mix with the heathen trinities and other multi-god “heads”. To attempt to shuffle them together ends in the complicated mess of this creed, and to force everyone to vouch forit despite its incongruities. And covering the incongruities with the catch-all of “mystery”, “mysteries”, and “mysterious”, only adds to the ruse, and its fraudulent and suspicious nature.]

The Father is made of none, neither created, nor begotten.  The Son is of the Father alone, not made, nor created, but begotten.  The Holy Spirit is of the Father, neither made, nor created, nor begotten, but proceeding.
[This paragraph is the only whole part of the Athanasian creed that is true.]

So there is one Father, not three fathers; one Son, not three sons; one holy Spirit, not three holy spirits.
[Let us dispense with the complications. No one says that there are three Fathers, three Sons, three Spirits.]

And in the Trinity none is before or after another; none is greater or less than another, but all three Persons are co-eternal together and co-equal. So that in all things, as is aforesaid, the Unity in Trinity and the Trinity in Unity is to be worshipped.
[I reject this whole paragraph. “Godhead” (“theios”,  “theiotēs”, “theotēs”) biblically means an unspecified number of beings, and more accurately refers to the “divinity” of the Father (“theos”), from whose divinity the Son had the fullness of divinity corporeally. See Acts 17:29; Rom. 1:20; Col. 2:9]

He therefore that will be saved must think thus of the Trinity.
[The Bible also rejects the earthly church’s violent enforcement of this man-made pagan creed, to corral the world into the Church’s domination and bondage or interdict and ex-communication. “And if any man obey not our word by this epistle, note that man, and have no company with him, that he may be ashamed. Yet count him not as an enemy, but admonish him as a brother.” (2Thess. 3:14,15). Church creeds do no differently than Nimrod’s pledge of loyalty for totalitarian civil control, upon pain of death for all who would not bow to his empire’s demonic, dictatorial monarchy.]

Furthermore, it is necessary to everlasting salvation that he also believe rightly the Incarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ.  For the right faith is, that we believe and confess, that our Lord Jesus Christ, the Son of God, is God and man; God, of the substance of the Father, begotten before the worlds; and man of the substance of his mother, born in the world; perfect God and perfect man, of a rational soul and human flesh subsisting. Equal to the Father, as touching His godhead; and inferior to the Father, as touching His manhood; who, although He is God and man, yet he is not two, but one Christ; one, not by conversion of the godhead into flesh but by taking of the manhood into God; one altogether; not by confusion of substance, but by unity of person.  For as the rational soul and flesh is one man, so God and man is one Christ; who suffered for our salvation, descended into hell, rose again the third day from the dead.  He ascended into heaven, He sits at the right hand of the Father, God Almighty, from whence He will come to judge the quick and the dead.  At His coming all men will rise again with their bodies and shall give account for their own works.  And they that have done good shall go into life everlasting; and they that have done evil into everlasting fire.
[Does God have a substance? Does glory have a substance? “Substance” infers atomic, molecular, material structures. But “God is a Spirit” (John 4:24). Does a Spirit have a substance, by conventional terminology? When understanding what Jesus meant in the context of verse 24, the word, “substance”, cannot suffice to describe anything of God, the Father. “…and they that worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth.” What kind of “substance” forms worship? “O Thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel.” (Ps. 22:3). God has as much “substance” as glory has and as our human spirit has. Does my spirit have “substance”? Does yours? Our spirits are thoughts and yearnings and prayers that come from a new heart and a new spirit from the creative and redemptive Spirit of God.]
[This phrase “…as touching His manhood” denies the everlasting Sonship of the Only-begotten through all eternity past. For God to give “His only begotten Son” (John 3:16), He must have had an only begotten Son prior to giving Him up for us all.]
[“God and man is one Christ” is more accurately stated, “the only begotten Son of God and man is one Christ”]
[The Greek for “hell” is more accurately written, “death” or “the grave”. Currently there is no hell, which won’t exist until Judgment, “after the thousand years are expired” (Rev. 20:7-10). And then after Satan, his evil hosts, and the earthly wicked are destroyed, the fires of their destruction will be quenched. “The wicked…shall be ashes under the soles of your feet in the day that I shall do this, saith the Lord of hosts.” (Mal. 4:3). “All the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the Lord of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.” (Mal. 4:1).]

This is the catholic faith, which except a man believe faithfully, he cannot be saved.

[“But He said, Yea rather, blessed are they that hear the word of God, and keep it.” (Luke 11:28). “Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.” (John 3:5,6). “And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.” (Rev. 22:17). “Ye shall be hated of all men for My name’s sake: but he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.” (Mark 13:13). “Behold, I come quickly: blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book.” (Rev. 22:7). “For we are made partakers of Christ, if we hold the beginning of our confidence stedfast unto the end.” (Heb. 3:14). “Blessed are they that do His commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.” (Rev. 22:14).] 

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