Hey David,
Considering that God the Father's Holy Spirit makes
intelligent intercession for us with unutterable groanings, can he be, really,
a mere experience?
Rom_8:26 " Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our
infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the
Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be
uttered."
I submit to you that the Paraclete is an intelligent person,
not like unto an experience of a particular radio station or teleprompter. Can
an experience unilaterally approach God the Father to make meaningful
intercession for complex sons or daughters? I trow not! I hope that you will
think this over, carefully, for your own sake. I'll still be your friend, but I
don't want you to suffer disgrace. (L.,dis- (not, apart from) + grace.)
'Twas great to see you, during this visit.
D_______
Hi D_______,
I wrote this a little hastily. Hopefully it is
understandable.
Rom 8:23 “Ourselves
also, which have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within
ourselves, waiting for the adoption, to wit, the redemption of our body.”
Rom 8:19 “For the
earnest expectation of the creature waiteth for the manifestation of the sons
of God.”
We can’t groan for the things of God unless Jesus puts that
in us. No one is spiritually minded from their first birth. Not trying to be
contentious, but I love the thought that the groaning that we have comes from
the presence of Jesus’ Spirit that He brings to my spirit because His words
abide in me. This is the science of salvation, the law of the Spirit of life in
Christ Jesus.
Rom 7:24-8:2 “O
wretched man that I am! who shall deliver me from the body of this death? I
thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then with the mind I myself serve
the law of God; but with the flesh the law of sin. There is therefore now no
condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh,
but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath
made me free from the law of sin and death.”
Paul makes no mention of the Spirit until in his
desperation, he has seen the still body of Christ after serving Law of God in
his mind. He has surrendered to the Law of God, he has sought it out with
fervent longing, he has fortified his mind with the words of truth, and finally
he has been crucified by the crucifixion of Christ. Now he “[lives] unto God”
(Gal. 2:19) by the “Spirit of Christ” (Rom. 8:9). “The law of the Spirit of
life in Christ Jesus”. It was a new experience to Paul and it is new to us today
because we receive a new heart and new spirit. “ And I will give them one
heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart
out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh: That they may walk in
my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my
people, and I will be their God.” (Eze 11:19,20 ). “ A new heart also will I
give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the
stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. And I
will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye
shall keep my judgments, and do them.” (Eze 36:26,27).
This Spirit is not an impersonal force. It is the presence
and power and love of Jehovah the Father, who is Spirit, sent through His Son
Jehovah, who can do nothing of Himself. “But ye are not in the flesh, but in
the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have
not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.” (Rom 8:9). The Spirit is the
Spirit of God and the Spirit of Christ, which if we don’t have we are
reprobate. SPIRIT+Spirit+spirit= the Spirit.
The third person of a trinity is a blasphemous scam from the 4th century apostasy of Catholicism. The church had lost its first love and its candlestick was taken away. Asceticism from Egypt was the only outlet for the chastisement of their peace. Spiritualistic doctrines from devils moved in to hide the loss of true spirituality. This is when the trinity falsehood came in.
“And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which
waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the
pleasant land.
And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast
down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down.
And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered.” (Dan 8:9-12).
“And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the
transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and
understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and
he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall
destroy the mighty and the holy people. And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.” (Dan 8:23-25).
“Dan 11:20 Then shall
stand up in his estate a raiser of taxes in the glory of the kingdom: but
within few days he shall be destroyed, neither in anger, nor in battle.
Dan 11:21 And in his
estate shall stand up a vile person, to whom they shall not give the honour of
the kingdom: but he shall come in peaceably, and obtain the kingdom by
flatteries. Dan 11:22 And with the arms of a flood shall they be overflown from before him, and shall be broken; yea, also the prince of the covenant.
Dan 11:23 And after the league made with him he shall work deceitfully: for he shall come up, and shall become strong with a small people.
Dan 11:24 He shall enter peaceably even upon the fattest places of the province; and he shall do that which his fathers have not done, nor his fathers’ fathers; he shall scatter among them the prey, and spoil, and riches: yea, and he shall forecast his devices against the strong holds, even for a time....
Dan 11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
Dan 11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily sacrifice, and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
Dan 11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do exploits.
Dan 11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, many days.
Dan 11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
Dan 11:35 And some of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make them white, even to the time of the end: because it is yet for a time appointed.
Dan 11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.” (Dan 11:20-24,30-36).
“I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among
them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns
plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of
man, and a mouth speaking great things....
And he shall speak great words against the most High, and
shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws:
and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing
of time.” (Dan 7:8,25).
I quoted all that to show how devious this little horn/king
of fierce countenance/vile king of the north/ eight horned beast was. He would
practice “deceit” and “treachery” with great success. By peace and religion he
would destroy many. He would dare to change religious laws--(church doctrines?)
If we fit into that verse the trinity doctrine, a godhead concept held by the
whole world since the beginning of extant evidence, it would easily fulfill the
prophecy. The Magisterium calls the Trinity the very foundation of Christian
faith. It is the foundation only because it got put in at the very ground floor
of the growth of the little horn power.
They lost the true Spirit. Have we gained it back? Does
Protestantism/Adventism really have what the apostolic church lost in the
Spirit?
“And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering
for sin....And having an High Priest over the house of God;
Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled from an evil conscience, and our bodies washed with pure water.” (Heb 10:17,18,21,22).
I trow not.
Sabbath blessings, brother
David
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